Professor: You are a Christian, aren't you, son?
±³¼ö: ÀÚ³×´Â Å©¸®½ºÂùÀÌÁö?
Student : Yes, sir.
Çлý: ³×, ±³¼ö´Ô.
Prof: So you believe in God?
±³¼ö: ±×·¡, ÀÚ³×´Â ½ÅÀ» ¹Ï´Â°¡?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Çлý: ¹°·ÐÀÔ´Ï´Ù, ±³¼ö´Ô.
Prof: Is God good?
±³¼ö: ½ÅÀº ¼±ÇÑ°¡?
Student : Sure.
Çлý: ±×·³¿ä.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
±³¼ö: ½ÅÀº Àü´ÉÇÑ°¡?
Student : Yes.
Çлý: ³×.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to
God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who
are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
±³¼ö: ³» µ¿»ýÀº ½Å²² °íÃÄ´Þ¶ó°í ±âµµÇßÁö¸¸ ¾ÏÀ¸·Î Á×¾ú³×.
´ë°³ÀÇ »ç¶÷µéÀº ´©±º°¡ ¾ÆÇö§ µµ¿ÍÁÖ·Á ÇÏÁö.
ÇÏÁö¸¸ ½ÅÀº ±×·¯Áö ¾Ê¾Ò³×. ÀÌ·±µ¥µµ ½ÅÀÌ ¼±ÇÑ°¡? À½?
(Student is silent.)
(ÇлýÀº ħ¹¬ÇÑ´Ù.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again,
young fella. Is God good?
±³¼ö: ´ë´äÀ» ¸øÇϴ±º. ±×·³ ´Ù½Ã ¹¯Áö, ÀþÀºÀÌ.
½ÅÀº ¼±ÇÑ°¡?
Student :Yes.
Çлý: ³×.
Prof: Is Satan good?
±³¼ö: ±×·³ »çźÀº ¼±ÇÑ°¡?
Student : No.
Çлý: ¾Æ´Õ´Ï´Ù.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
±³¼ö: »çźÀº ¾îµð¼ žÁö?
Student : From...God...
Çлý: ... Çϳª´Ô¿¡°Ô¼ ... ºÎÅÍÁö¿ä..
(Çϳª´ÔÀº ·ç½ÃÆÛ¶ó´Â õ»ç¸¦ ¸¸µå¼Ì´Ù,
ÈÄ¿¡ Ÿ¶ôÇÏ¿© »çźÀÌ µÈ...)
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
±³¼ö: ±×·¸´Ù³×. ±×·¯¸é ¸»Çغ¸°Ô, ¼¼»ó¿¡ ¾ÇÀÌ Àִ°¡?
Student : Yes.
Çлý: ³×.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it?
And God did make everything. Correct?
±³¼ö: ¾ÇÀº ¾îµð¿¡³ª ÀÖÁö, ±×·¸Áö ¾Æ´ÏÇÑ°¡?
±×¸®°í ½ÅÀº ¸ðµç°ÍÀ» ¸¸µé¾úÁö. ¸Â´Â°¡?
Student : Yes.
Çлý: ³×.
Prof: So who created evil?
±³¼ö: ±×·¸´Ù¸é ¾ÇÀº ´©°¡ ¸¸µé¾ú´Â°¡?
(Student does not answer.)
(ÇлýÀº ´ë´äÇÏÁö ¾Ê´Â´Ù.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
±³¼ö: ¼¼»ó¿¡´Â ¾ÆÇÄ, ºÎµµ´ö, ÃßÇÔ µîÀÇ
Ãß¾ÇÇÑ °ÍµéÀÌ Á¸ÀçÇÏÁö, ±×·¸Áö?
Student :Yes, sir.
Çлý: ±×·¸½À´Ï´Ù, ±³¼ö´Ô.
Prof: So, who created them?
±³¼ö: ±×·¸´Ù¸é ´©°¡ ±×°ÍµéÀ» ¸¸µé¾ú³ª?
(Student has no answer.)
(ÇлýÀº ´ë´äÇÏÁö ¾Ê´Â´Ù.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify
and observe the world around you.
Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
±³¼ö: °úÇÐÀº »ç¶÷ÀÌ ¼¼»óÀº ÀÎÁöÇϴµ¥ 5°¡Áö °¨°¢À»
»ç¿ëÇÑ´Ù°í ÇÏÁö. ±×·¸´Ù¸é ´ë´äÇغ¸°Ô ÀþÀºÀÌ,
½ÅÀ» º»ÀûÀÌ Àִ°¡?
Student : No, sir.
Çлý: ¸øºÃ½À´Ï´Ù, ±³¼ö´Ô.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
±³¼ö: ±×·¸´Ù¸é ½ÅÀÇ ¸ñ¼Ò¸®¸¦ µé¾îº»Àû Àִ°¡?
Student : No , sir.
Çлý: ¾Æ´Ï¿À, ±³¼ö´Ô.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God,
smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory
perception of God for that matter?
±³¼ö: ±×·¸´Ù¸é ½ÅÀ» ´À³¢°Å³ª, ¸Àº¸°Å³ª, ³¿»õ¸ÃÀº Àûµµ ¾ø´Â°¡? ½ÅÀ» ¾î¶°ÇÑ °¨°¢À¸·Îµµ ÀÎÁöÇÑ ÀûÀÌ Àִ°¡?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Çлý: ¾Æ´Ï¿À, ¾ø½À´Ï´Ù. ±³¼ö´Ô.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
±³¼ö: ±×·±µ¥µµ ¾ÆÁ÷ ½ÅÀ» ¹Ï³ª?
Student : Yes.
Çлý: ³×.
Prof: According to empirical, testable,
demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist.
What do you say to that, son?
±³¼ö: °úÇÐÀº °æÇèÀûÀÌ°í ½ÇÁõÀûÀÎ ³íÁõÀ¸·Î
½ÅÀÌ ¾ø´Ù°í ¸»Çϳ×. ÀÚ³×´Â ÀÌ°ÍÀ» ¾î¶»°Ô »ý°¢Çϴ°¡?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Çлý: Àú´Â ´ÜÁö ¹ÏÀ½ÀÌ ÀÖÀ» »ÓÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
±³¼ö: ±×·¡, ¹ÏÀ½. ±×°Ô °úÇÐÀÌ °¡ÁöÁö ¸øÇÑ°ÍÀÌÁö.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Çлý: ±³¼ö´Ô, ¼¼»ó¿¡ ¿À̶õ °ÍÀÌ ÀÖ½À´Ï±î?
Prof: Yes.
±³¼ö: ¹°·ÐÀÌÁö.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Çлý: ±×·¯¸é Â÷°¡¿òÀ̶õ °Íµµ ÀÖ°ÚÁö¿ä?
Prof: Yes.
±³¼ö: ±×·¸´Ù³×.
Student : No sir. There isn't.
Çлý: ¾Æ´Õ´Ï´Ù ±³¼ö´Ô. ±×·±°ÍÀº ¾øÁö¿ä.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet
with this turn of events.)
(°ÀǽÇÀº ÀÌ ¹ÝÀü¿¡ ¼ø°£ Àû¸·ÀÌ Èê·¶´Ù)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat,
superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat.
But we don't have anything called cold.
We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat,
but we can't go any further after that.
There is no such thing as cold.
Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat.
We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy.
Cold is not the opposite of heat,
sir, just the absence of it.
Çлý: ±³¼ö´Ô, ¸¹Àº ¿, ´õ ¸¹Àº ¿, ÃÊ¿, ¹é¿,
¾Æ´Ï¸é ¾ÆÁÖ ÀûÀº ¿À̳ª ¿ÀÇ ºÎÀç´Â ÀÖÀ»¼ö ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù.
ÇÏÁö¸¸ Â÷°¡¿òÀ̶õ °ÍÀº ¾øÁö¿ä.
¿µÇÏ 273µµÀÇ ¿ÀÇ ºÎÀç »óÅ·Π¸¸µé¼ö´Â ÀÖÁö¸¸
±× ÀÌÇÏ·Î ¸¸µé ¼ö´Â ¾øÁö¿ä.
Â÷°¡¿òÀ̶õ °ÍÀÌ ¾ø±â ¶§¹®ÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
Â÷°¡¿òÀ̶õ ´Ü¾î´Â ´ÜÁö ¿ÀÇ ºÎÀ縦 ³ªÅ¸³¾ »ÓÀÌÁö
±×°ÍÀ» °è·®ÇÒ ¼ö´Â ¾øÁö¿ä.
¿Àº ¿¡³ÊÁöÀÌÁö¸¸, Â÷°¡¿òÀº ¿ÀÇ ¹Ý´ë°¡ ¾Æ´Õ´Ï´Ù ±³¼ö´Ô.
±×Àú ¿ÀÇ ºÎÀçÀÏ »ÓÀÌÁö¿ä.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
(°ÀǽÇÀº ÁãÁ×Àºµí °í¿äÇß´Ù.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor?
Is there such a thing as darkness?
Çлý: ±×·¸´Ù¸é ¾îµÒÀº ¾î¶»½À´Ï±î, ±³¼ö´Ô?
¾îµÒÀ̶õ °ÍÀÌ Á¸ÀçÇϳª¿ä?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
±³¼ö: ±×·¸Áö. ¾îµÒÀÌ ¾ø´Ù¸é ¹ãÀÌ µµ´ëü ¿Ö ¿À´Â°¡?
Student : You're wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the absence of something.
You can have low light, normal light, bright light,
flashing light....But if you have no light constantly,
you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it?
In reality, darkness isn't.
If it were you would be able to make darkness darker,
wouldn't you?
Çлý: ±×·¸Áö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù, ±³¼ö´Ô.
¾îµÒ ¿ª½Ã ¹«¾ùÀΰ¡ ºÎÀçÇϱ⠶§¹®¿¡ »ý±âÁö¿ä.
¾ÆÁÖ ÀûÀº ºû, º¸Åë ºû, ¹àÀº ºû, ´«ºÎ½Å ºûÀÌ Á¸ÀçÇÒ ¼ö´Â ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. ÇÏÁö¸¸ Áö¼ÓÀûÀ¸·Î ¾Æ¹« ºûµµ Á¸ÀçÇÏÁö ¾ÊÀ¸¸é ¿ì¸®´Â ¾îµÒÀ̶ó
ºÎ¸£´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù. ±×·¸Áö ¾Ê½À´Ï±î?
½ÇÁ¦·Î ¾îµÒÀ̶õ °ÍÀº ¾øÁö¿ä. ¸¸¾à ÀÖ´Ù¸é
¾îµÒÀ» ´õ ¾îµÓ°Ô ¸¸µé¼ö ÀÖ°ÚÁö¿ä, ±×·¸¼ö ÀÖ³ª¿ä?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
±³¼ö: ±×·¡, ¿äÁ¡ÀÌ ¹º°¡, ÀþÀºÀÌ?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Çлý: ±³¼ö´Ô, Á¦ ¿äÁ¡Àº ±³¼ö´ÔÀÌ À߸øµÈ ÀüÁ¦¸¦
³»¸®½Ã°í ÀÖ´Ù´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
±³¼ö: À߸øµÇ¾ú´Ù°í? ¼³¸íÇØ ÁÙ ¼ö ÀÖ°Ú³ª?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.
You argue there is life and then there is death,
a good God and a bad God.
You are viewing the concept of God as something finite,
something we can measure.
Çлý: ±³¼ö´Ô, ±³¼ö´ÔÀº À̺йýÀûÀÎ ¿À·ù¸¦ ¹üÇÏ°í °è½Ê´Ï´Ù.
»ý¸íÀÌ ÀÖÀ¸¸é Á×À½ÀÌ ÀÖ°í, ¼±ÇÑ ½ÅÀÌ ÀÖÀ¸¸é ¾ÇÇÑ ½ÅÀÌ ÀÖ´Ù´Â
³íÁöÀÌÁö¿ä. ±³¼ö´ÔÀº ÇÏ´Ï´ÔÀ» À¯ÇÑÇÑ,
¿ì¸®°¡ ÃøÁ¤ °¡´ÉÇÑ ºÐÀÌ¶ó º¸°í °è½Ê´Ï´Ù.
Sir, science can't even explain a thought.
It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen,
much less fully understood either one.
To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of
the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor.
Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
±³¼ö´Ô, °úÇÐÀº ¿ì¸®°¡ »ý°¢ÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ´Ù´Â Á¡ Á¶Â÷ ¼³¸íÀ» ¸øÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Àü±â¿Í Àڱ⸦ ¸»ÇÏÁö¸¸, º¼¼ö´Â ¾øÁö¿ä.
¿Ïº®È÷ ÀÌÇØÇÒ ¼ö ¾ø´Â°Ç ¹°·ÐÀ̱¸¿ä.
Á×À½À» »ý¸íÀÇ ¹Ý´ë·Î º¸´Â°Ç Á×À½À̶õ °ÍÀÌ
½ÇÀç·Î Á¸ÀçÇÏÁö ¾Ê´Â´Ù´Â °Í¿¡ ¹«ÁöÇؼ ±×·±°Ì´Ï´Ù.
Á×À½Àº »ý¸íÀÇ ¹Ý´ë°¡ ¾Æ´Ï¶ó ´çÁö »ý¸íÀÇ ºÎÀçÀÏ »ÓÀÌÁö¿ä.
±³¼ö´ÔÀº »ç¶÷ÀÌ ¿ø¼þÀÌ¿¡¼ ÁøÈÇß´Ù°í °¡¸£Ä¡½Ê´Ï±î?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process,
yes, of course, I do.
±³¼ö: ÀÚ¿¬ ÁøÈ °úÁ¤À» ¸»Çϴ°Ŷó¸é ±×·¸´Ù³×.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution
with your own eyes, sir?
Çлý: ±×·¸´Ù¸é, ÁøÈÀÇ °úÁ¤À» ´«À¸·Î ¸ñ°ÝÇÑ ÀûÀÌ ÀÖ½À´Ï±î,
±³¼ö´Ô?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile,
beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
(±³¼ö´Â ³í¸®°¡ ¼º¸³µÇ¾î°¨À» º¸°í ¹Ì¼ÒÁöÀ¸¸ç °í°³¸¦ Àú¾ú´Ù.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed
the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove
that this process is an on-going endeavour,
are you not teaching your opinion, sir?
Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
Çлý: ¾Æ¹«µµ ÁøÈ°¡ ÁøÇàµÇ´Â °úÁ¤À» ¸ø°ÝÇÏÁö ¸øÇßÀ» »Ó ¾Æ´Ï¶ó ±× °úÁ¤À» Áõ¸íÇÏÁöµµ ¸øÇßÀ¸´Ï
±³¼ö´ÔÀº °³ÀÎÀÇ ÀÇ°ßÀ» °¡¸£Ä¡½Ã´Â °Å°Ú±º¿ä, ±³
¼ö´Ô. ¸¶Ä¡ °úÇÐÀÚ°¡ ¾Æ´Ñ ¿¬¼³°¡ 󷳿ä.
(The class is in uproar.)
(°ÀǽÇÀÌ ¿õ¼ºÀ̱⠽ÃÀÛÇß´Ù.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class
who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
Çлý: ÀÌ °Àǽǿ¡ ±³¼ö´ÔÀÇ ³ú¸¦ º» »ç¶÷ÀÌ ÀÖ³ª¿ä?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
(°ÀÇ½Ç ¿©±âÀú±â¼ ¿ôÀ½ÀÌ ÅÍÁ® ³ª¿Ô´Ù.)
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard
the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?....
.No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, testable,
demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,
sir. With all due respect, sir,
how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent.
The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Çлý: ¿©±â¿¡ ±³¼ö´ÔÀÇ ³ú¸¦ µè°Å³ª, ´À³¢°Å³ª, ¸Àº¸°Å³ª,
³¿»õ¸ÃÀº ÀûÀÌ ÀִºР°è½Ê´Ï±î?
¾Æ¹«µµ ±×·±ÀûÀÌ ¾ø´Â°Í °°±º¿ä.
±×·¯¸é °úÇÐÀº °æÇèÀûÀÌ°í ½ÇÁõÀûÀÎ ³íÁõÀ¸·Î
±³¼ö´ÔÀÇ ³ú°¡ ¾ø´Ù°í ¸»Çϴ±º¿ä.
±×·¸´Ù¸é ±³¼ö´ÔÀÇ °ÀǸ¦ ¾î¶»°Ô ½Å·ÚÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ½À´Ï±î?
(°ÀǽÇÀº °í¿äÇß´Ù. ±³¼ö´Â ½É¿ÀÇÑ Ç¥Á¤À¸·Î ÇлýÀ» ÀÀ½ÃÇß´Ù.)
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
±³¼ö: »ç½ÇÀ» ¹Ï´Â ¼ö ¹Û¿¡ ¾ø°Ú±º, ÀþÀºÀÌ.
Student : That is it sir..
The link between man & God is FAITH.
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
Çлý: ¹Ù·Î ±×°Ì´Ï´Ù, ±³¼ö´Ô.
Çϳª´Ô°ú Àΰ£ÀÇ °ü°è´Â "¹ÏÀ½" ÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
±×°Ô ¹Ù·Î ¸ðµç°ÍÀ» ¿òÁ÷ÀÌ°í »ý¸íÀÖ°Ô ¸¸µå´Â °ÍÀÌÁö¿ä.
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